“We’re in Steven’s Village,” Mingo tells me as I answer the phone. “But we’re passing by. The whole town was basically wiped out. There’s nothing. The store is gone. There’s no beach. We’re gonna find some place to camp lower down,” he says.

I ask how today went. He sounds tired.

“It’s was a good day but a lot of paddling. We’ve been at it 10 hours. There is very little current so it’s a very slow river,” he replies. “We did go past a big whirlpool today. It was probably 30-40 feet in diameter. I’ve never seen one so big, other than in the movies.” He chuckles then continues, “I got stuck in one the other day, but it wasn’t that big. One minute you’re fine then the next minute the kayak is doing something weird. Other than that, it was a pretty boring day.”

I quickly tell him that things are confirmed for his trip back to Fairbanks then back to Tok. We keep it short as he’s says he’s not sure when he’ll get to charge the sat phone next. As we hang up he tells me they should be at the bridge tomorrow (Thursday) and he’ll give me call.